Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Per. 4 Fahrenheit Fishbowl/Liveblog -91

101 comments:

  1. @Gabriel
    Yes I do believe that the dog was at the door becsuse Montag said he smelt blew electricity underneath the door.

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  2. Will his plan with the professor to burn down the firemen's houses work?

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  3. @class
    Does anyone think montag and faber will begin to have people start reading again? or is it too difficult of a task to have that happen?

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  4. @ Class
    Do you think that Faber will be the new Clarisse in the story?

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  5. Jack-
    I think it is a stupid plan to burn down the firemen's houses. I don't have another plan that they should use but that is very risky. I also feel like the authore just quickly introduced it, not like he worked up to the grand moment of the plan beginning to form. That bugged me a lot.

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  6. @inner circle
    I think that there is more than one dog. The dog at the door isn't necessarily the hound from the firestation.

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  7. This dog has been to his house twice, however when he leaves it isn't there to kill him. Does it have more than just him to follow?

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  8. @Jack S
    I think it's a good idea but I'm not sure if it will work because how are they planing to get the books into the firemens' house. Also what are they trying to achieve? Are they trying to get rid of the firemen?

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  9. Toward the end, there was a small device. Wasn't it an earphone? How do you suppose Faber got it and Why did he get it?

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  10. Garret-
    I think that society will not start reading. The government seems to control what gets out and the firefighters are then to prevent people from being offended. I think that nobody will hear about the firemen's books, the burning, if they are burned, will be done in secret.

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  11. @Class
    Why do you think that the Mechanical Hound was sent to Montag's house - was it a warning from Beatty for Montag to burn the books he has hidden?

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  12. @Angelo
    I do not think that anyone can replace Clarisse. I do think that Faber will be the new person that keeps Montag sane. Clarisse was braver than Faber is. Do you think that the firemen will see the green thing in Montag's ear?

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  13. @angelo
    I do not think that he will be quite like clarrise in the way about keeping montag interested but Faber will help Montag be happier

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  14. @ Angelo
    No, I don't think Faber is going to the be the new Clarisse, although he thinks differently than the public, like Clarisse did. Faber just doesn't have the fun and youthfulness Clarisse had in her.

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  15. Melissa-
    If they get rid of the firemen, "chaos" will break out and everybody can read books without fear of their house being burned down.

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  16. @ Garret
    I believe that it will prove to be to hard to get the people in the society to start reading again because the people in the society seem to be use to the norm and don't really take any risks.

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  17. @Class
    Why did Montag leave Faber alone the first time they met in the park with a poetry book in this jacket? (Eli)

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  18. @Inner circle
    I think that the old woman wanted to die with her books because rather then be living with out her books and in the new type of controlled life style she wanted to "leave" with her books. She did make a small difference, she to Montag's changing views.
    Jayla H

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  19. Faber showed Montage the hidden part of his house and kept saying that was where he was safe. Whats so safe about it? Was it one of the reasons that he didn't want a fire to eat the inside of his house?

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  20. @Lauren
    I think that the hound wasn't really at his house. I think that Montag is now just paranoid. However if the dog was really at his house i do think think that it was a warning to burn the book because Beatty knows that Montag has the book

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  21. @class
    How do you think Montag knew what the Bible was if most of them are burned? Do you think it means anything to him or Faber?

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  22. Why does the man keep telling Montag that he is a coward and that he is so afraid? It sounds like hes bragin about his cowardice.

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  23. @class
    What is "Denham's Dentifrice"?

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  24. @ Lauren A.
    I do believe that the hound was sent as a message to remind Montag to burn the books or the firemen might have to do it for him.

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  25. @paige
    There is also a chance that the government will institute some new way to keep the books away from people. Also, people are so used to not reading that they might not want to start again.

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  26. @Lauren
    I think the mechanical hound was sent to create fear in Montag and his wife. The idea that the hound was out there, waiting, would instill fear into Montag to go back to work and turn in his books, or instill fear into Mildred to turn her husband in.

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  27. @Rachael
    Yes i think he will want books back. I think he's want to read, explore the books. He'll want to understand and once he does, he wont want to stop.

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  28. @Tram
    He probably felt safer in his house because he knew that if he stayed away from society then nobody would be suspicious about him. He probably doesn't have books, but then again, I think he's afraid that people will think that he does anyway because of how he acts.
    ~Taylor O.

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  29. Tram-
    Would you want the inside of your house burned? I don't think that the safe-room is a specific reason to not have his house burned, it's just a normal reaction by anybody, living now or in the book.

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  30. @inner circle
    Why did Faber decide that it was safe to show Montag his book so many years ago? Then he wrote down his number and his address, did he suspect that Montag would decide to not be a fireman and would eventually ask him about books?

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  31. @Paige
    Is that the goal of Faber and Montag? I'm not sure at what they are trying to accomplish with the ear-bud and reprinting the books.

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  32. @Natalie B.
    Dengam's Dentifrice is a comercial for a product that is played on the train constantly to drill the product or idea into the pessangers mind.

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  33. @Eli
    I think that Montag left him alone because he hasn't ever truly been the monster that most firemen are. He did like to burn books, but I think that he cares when he is dealing with actual people.

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  34. @sam
    I think he tells Montag that because he does'nt want to get in trouble so he doesn't want to risk anything.

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  35. @Natalie
    I think the reason why he knew was because of his age. He said he was old so maybe the books were there during his time.

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  36. @angelo
    Yes but why does it keep echoing in Montag's mind when he is reading?

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  37. @class
    Does anyone else think it's sad that Montag says, "That's the good part of dying; when you have nothing to lose, you run any risk you want." I think that is awful to realize that you don't even care if you get killed because you believe that you have nothing to live for. Do you think there is something for Montag to live for?

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  38. What do you think will happen to Montag and Faber if people like Beatty find out what they are doing? Will they get put in the asylum like the other people with books or worse? Does Beatty already have something planned for Montag, if he did send the hound to his house as a warning?

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  39. Colleen-
    If the firemen are abolished, the governemnt will need time to implement a new agency. Do you think that in this time, the minds of citizens will be changed?

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  40. @Jack S
    I think that he saw something in Montag. I think he sensed an innocence and curiosity that made him trust Montag, and he also is a man with nothing to lose so why not show him.

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  41. @ Jack Smith
    I think that Faber decided to show Montag the book so many years ago because he knew or had a feeling that Montag was different then the others in their society.

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  42. @Natalie B.
    "Denham's Dentifrice" could be an advertisement. It was repeated over and over, which is what companies do to try and get people to buy their products. That's what it looked like to me.

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  43. @Tram
    I don't think that he did know because Montag started to ask Beatty when did burning the books start. I think that books might be too old for Montag.

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  44. @class
    Do you think Faber is going to go through with the plan, or chicken out and not? Do you think Faber is somewhat proud of being a coward
    ~Taylor O

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  45. @Jianna
    I think that if Montag reads the books, he will start to want to make a positive difference in the world, be inspired, and have something to live for.

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  46. @Jianna
    I think that before he met Clarisse he really had no purpose in his life and now after talking to her and reading the books and seeing the woman burn he now has something to live fr but is still a little lost and his life doesnt have much purpose.

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  47. Melissa-
    I think that would be their goal. I can't think of another reason to burn the firemen's houses. Also, as I commented to Colleen, the government will need time to create a new agency but do you think that time is long enough to change enough people's minds?

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  48. @Jianna
    Montag now has books to live for. I think that he would rather die than not have books now that he has disovered them. It is kind of sad, but I think it shows that Montag will die for his cause.

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  49. @ Jianna
    I think that Montag now lives for making a differencce in their society through the power of the books and the ideas within the books.

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  50. @inner circle
    I believe that Mildred will not change and begin to read books because she is satisfied with having a 'family' on her TV walls and she is happy when her friends come over to visit so sh doesn't have any reason to change.

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  51. @Lauren A
    I think they would get sent to the asylum but also on page 91 Faber says "Let's listen to this Captain Beatty together. He could be one of us" So what if Beatty was one of "them", would he join them if he found out?

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  52. @Jianna
    Montag seems to be looking for something to live for. In the words of Martin Luther King Jr.,"A person who has nothing to live for isn't fit to live." Everyone wants to have a purpose. Value in one's life usually depends on if someone has things worth living for.

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  53. @inner circle
    I think Beatty was once in Montag's situation, and still likes reading. He just doesn't want anyone to know.

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  54. @Taylor
    I think that Faber will go through with the plan. He has courage. He owns up to being a coward, but to do that you have to have the courage to do that. I think that Faber wants what Montag wants but certainly not as extreme.

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  55. @Jianna
    It is sad, and montag does have somehing to live for, to get people to read and have society become more intellegent and ask more questions.

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  56. @paige
    I think it will take some time to change peoples minds so if the government makes a new plan quickly then nothing will happen but it seems like he government is at war so it could take some time. It also depends on whether the people are willing to change or not.

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  57. @Taylor
    I think that Faber may chicken out when he actually has to do something on his own or if Beatty figures out what they are trying to do.

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  58. @inner circle
    The commercial interrupted his thoughts, and he memorized it along with the book by accident.

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  59. @Jack B,
    I agree with you when you said you didn't think Mildred will change. Because even after Montag spent the day going through books with her, she still invites her friends over to watch the parlor. So unlike Montag, who changed right after meeting Clarisse, Mildred doesn't seem effected.

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  60. @Jack B
    I think he does. I feel that since he is the leader of the fireman, he has to understand. Also he knows so much but does nothing and he doesn't seem too scared to do anything either. He seems to know what the gov. is and what they want. I think he just doesn't care. Maybe he even feels it's for the better.

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  61. @lauren a
    Faber is probably stronger than he thinks he is. When the time comes, I believe he will come through.

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  62. @ Anna Z
    I think he is'nt curently hiding books but he had read and hid books in his past

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  63. @ Taylor
    I do believe that Faber is some what of a coward. On the other hand I believe he has the right to continue being a coward because if it has kept him safe so far why would he risk his own safety?

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  64. @Paige
    I agree, the government would create something else to stop people from reading books. It could take them a while to come up with something though because they would not be expecting this. At first I believe people would still be scared of reading even if the firemen are not there to enforce the law, it would take the public awhile to get used to the idea of reading.

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  65. @melissa
    When Captain Beatty was talking to Montag about the books and history of firemen, he seemed respectful of books (if that makes sense) but also like he believed books were bad for society so if he is one of them I think he will join them, if Montag and Faber trust him enough to tell him.

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  66. @Taylor
    I think Faber has lived so long as a coward that he has come to the conclusion that that's what he is and that he can't change that. I don't know if he will chicken out, but I do think he is the weaker than Montag. Montag has a fire burning in him to do something about their society, whereas Faber's fire has been slowly dieing.

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  67. Colleen-
    Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the war. Good point.

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  68. Do you think that Montag will actually never return to the firehouse?

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  69. @inner circle
    Beatty might have had a bad experience with books, and now he no longer wishes anyone to read them. Maybe he read a horror story?

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  70. Do you think Montag can rely on Faber? And do you think that firemen take books home out curiosity often?

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  71. @Jack S
    I agree, but do you think it will take him longer than Montag has the patience for?

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  72. @class
    On page 89, Faber states,"'And then the Government, seeing how advantageous it was to have people reading only about passionate lips and the fist in the stomach, circled the situation with your fire-eaters.'" Up until this point, we have just assumed that the government is controlling all of this. Why do you think that Ray Bradbury waited this long in the book to tell his readers about the government conrtol?

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  73. @Melissa
    I hadn't thought of that, but I think that Beatty isn't "one of them" because I think that he sent the hound to Montag's house on purpose, and therefore is suspicious of Montag having books, and wants to scare him. If he really did do that, why would he be "one of them?"

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  74. @Sam G
    He will go back to the firehouse, but only to try and learn how to evade the dog and to put his plan in action.

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  75. @Jianna
    I actually feel that no one has anything to live for. Their all stuck in a different dimension. I feel as though their not really living and Montage figured that out.

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  76. @sam
    I think he will eventually have to return so that Beatty does not get too suspicious and so that he can get the addresses of firemen in order to carry out Faber's plan. Also I believe he will continue to pretend to be loyal to the firemen because of his wife's pressure upon him to keep his job and keep going along with society.

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  77. @ Inner Circle
    Even if Beatty was hiding and reading books who is going to go against his authority when he is the Fire Captain? Also if they were to prove him guilty he is not going to agree with them and burn his own books.

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  79. @Sam G
    I think for Montag and Faber's plan to work out, Montag will have to return to the firehouse, to talk to Beatty, and have Faber communicate with him through the seashells.

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  80. People thought that with the invention of television books would cease to exist. That didn't happen.

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  81. @Natalie
    So that we, the reader, could formulate our own ideas. This twist keeps us interested.

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  82. @Class
    On page 82, Montag says,"We have everything we need to be happy, but we aren't happy. Something's missing." Montag thinks what's missing is books, but Faber disagrees. What's missing besides books? Is our society missing elements that we need to be happy?

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  83. What do you think the war is about? Do you think it is about freedom? I know that most people decied that this book takes place in the U.S., but what happened to the freedom of speech and press?

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  84. Anna Z-
    I don't think that books will be condensed because Kindles can hold more room and they're not as heavy so writers don't have to worry about the practical size of their books.

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  85. @Natalie
    I think he waited because he wanted the readers to think about it and make our own assumptions about the life and government that they are in

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  86. @Inner Circle
    I do think that books will someday become very unpopular because of all the technology. However, I don't think that we will ever ban books or have them fully become extinct.

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  87. @Lauren A
    Beatty is sending us mixed messages of his beliefs I think. He has talked about books so we know Beatty has read books before and as Colleen said, it sounds like he has respect for them. Then again he is a firemen and like you said if he did send the hound to Montag's house then he is on the same side as the government.

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  88. @ Jayla
    I do not believe that firemen take home books often because earlier in the book Beatty tells Montag that every once in a while a firemen gets curious to take home a book.

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  89. @class
    The title of this chapter is "the sieve and the sand" so could it mean that Montag's and Faber's efforts may be strong and convincing but in the end, all there efforts will be for nothing and will be forgotten?

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  90. @eli
    I think that the society is missing a sense of community and togetherness. The people never interact with each other and so they never have a chance to connect with others and don;t seem to have friends. Also, in our world most events that happen in our community are social, so without those events people's lives would probably feel empty.

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  91. @Jack S
    Yea maybe he read "The Shining"

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  92. @ Natalie B
    During times of war people tend to let the government restrict freedom like the sedition act during WWI.

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  93. Final thoughts. Please shut down and return to the correct slot in the cart. Thanks--study for your vocab. quiz!!!

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  94. @Paige
    The government doesn't want the content to be exposed. I do not think that it matters weather or not it is electronic. I do not think that they even have electronic readers in this society.

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  95. @Melissa
    I agree. Maybe the mixed messages are a way of helping to build a false sense of confidence in Montag and Faber, so that they will tell Beatty and then he will be able to turn them in and send them to the asylum?

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  96. @Eli
    I think whats missing is reality. No one's talking about life, it's all about T.V. or not even talking at all. Like I said before, everyone is stuck in their own dimension.

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  97. @Elli
    The society is not only missing books, but if you think about it, they are missing relationships. They are missing REAL friends and REAL family. All they have is TV which isn't really their family at all, so they can't talk about anything any more.It's kind of like if you give someone all the moeny in the world, they won't be happy unless they have a true friend to talk to.

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  98. @ Class
    Supposing that these people never seem to leave their houses, yet there are people out driving and on the subway, what are the other people doing outside?

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  99. @Class
    On page 87, Faber says,"The public itself stopped reading on its own accord. You firemen provide a circus now and thenat which buildings are set off and crowds gather for the pretty blaze, but it's a small sideshow indeed, and hardly necessary to keep things in line. So few want to be rebels anymore." Are firemen really needed?

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  100. @ Mitchell
    I agree with your idea because in the chapter Montag may have said his memory of the sieve and the sand but in the chapter the book has never really related to the sieve and the sand.

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  101. @Anna
    I don't think the government would tell the people stuff like the news,they wouldn't want to tell them to much that may upset them, or have them start thinking on their own. So either they tell them nothing or it is censored. And remember Montag said that there is a war going on but no talks about it, so proof not to much news.

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